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Anthony Dickerson (CEO, former executive pastor, and author of the upcoming book *What If Racism Isn’t the Problem?*) joins Average Joe, Pastor Jeff, and Pastor Tim for a bold, gospel-centered conversation. He argues that racism is not the core issue plaguing society or the church — sin, pride, victimhood, and a rejection of personal responsibility are. Drawing from Scripture, personal experience, and thinkers like Thomas Sowell, Anthony exposes how BLM, DEI, affirmative action, and segregated church groups actually deepen division, rob people of dignity, and keep hearts unchanged. The only true solution: heart transformation and reconciliation through Jesus Christ alone.
Timestamps / Skimmable Show Notes (perfect for YouTube chapters & podcast notes)
00:00 – Opening: Israelites wanted to return to slavery → parallels with modern victimhood
02:00 – Meet Anthony Dickerson: servant-hearted brother who quietly organizes sheds & assembles chairs
03:20 – Book title revealed: “What If Racism Isn’t the Problem?”
05:10 – The real problem = sin & unchanged hearts, not skin color
06:00 – Biblical reconciliation: we’ve ALL wounded and been wounded → forgive → reconcile
08:40 – Thomas Sowell, cultural Marxism, and CRT in the church
09:15 – Anthony’s story: refused to attend segregated “black staff” grievance meetings at a former church
12:00 – Separate ethnic Bible studies & affinity groups in churches = division, not biblical
14:50 – “Racism” ranking #242 on the list of things actually holding people back
16:50 – Black identity before Christ identity? A lie of the devil
19:00 – Forced diversification of churches is unbiblical; preach the gospel to everyone and let God build His church
21:30 – Cultural preferences vs. gospel issues in church style
23:30 – Affirmative action destroys credibility (Thomas Sowell at Harvard pre- vs. post-AA)
25:00 – Anthony refuses all “minority-owned” business set-asides → “I compete for the 98%, not the 2%”
28:50 – Black Lives Matter: no schools built, no newspapers, no help — just a grift that keeps people enslaved to victimhood
31:40 – Civil-rights era fixed unjust laws. Today’s movement manufactures “unjust actions” because the old fight is over
32:00 – Powerful analogy: some prefer the comfort of slavery over the responsibility of freedom
36:00 – White guilt in action: stranger hands Anthony & his wife $60 “to make up for racism”
37:10 – Answering the “white fragility / Uncle Tom” accusation
40:20 – DEI is stealing hope from an entire generation
41:00 – Lowering standards for black students “to close the gap” = telling them they’re inferior
42:50 – Final gospel answer: reconciliation with God and each other ONLY through Christ
45:40 – Why many black visitors leave predominantly white biblical churches (and how the victimhood lie keeps them away)
51:50 – Closing encouragement & outro
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