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In this episode of *Tearing Down High Places*, hosts Pastor Jeff Kliewer and Average Joe Gormley interview Rob Shull, the newly appointed leader of Turning Point Action in Burlington County, NJ. Rob details his transformative spiritual recommitment following Charlie Kirk’s assassination on September 10, 2025, which propelled him to organize a hugely successful rally at Freedom Park in Medford—drawing nearly 200 people for gospel proclamation, encouragement, and unity. The discussion delves into a burgeoning nationwide revival among conservative Christians, especially Gen Z, the inseparable bond between biblical obedience and true freedom, spiritual warfare against demonic cultural influences like gender ideology, and actionable ways for believers to engage politically via Turning Point. With calls to involve families, support candidates like Jack Ciattarelli for school choice and pro-life protections, and boldly step into leadership, the episode urges listeners to pray fervently, debate wisely, and dismantle societal “high places” for a victorious culture of life.
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– **00:00-01:00: Rob’s Awakening**
Rob Shull shares his three-day quarantine post-Kirk’s death: “The entire shift in my motivation… I needed to turn my life over to Jesus Christ.” Overcame fatigue as a dad of four (fifth incoming) through God-centered drive.
– **01:00-04:00: Rally Triumph**
200+ at the Turning Point Action birthday rally for Kirk—no protesters, just open gospel invites. Pastor Jeff recounts a 19-year-old from atheist parents believing in Christ’s resurrection on the spot. Rob: “It’s always God first… We welcomed [protesters] with open arms.”
– **04:00-08:00: National Revival Surge**
20% church growth at Cornerstone since Sept. 10; NYT notes Gen Z’s conservative Christianity draw. From Idaho rallies to NYC buzz, Rob links it to constitutional morals: “One side that is godly… that’s the right.”
– **08:00-13:00: Freedom’s Source**
Erica Kirk: “Freedom is not anarchy.” Rob: “My freedom comes from God.” Pastor Jeff: “No one is so free as the one who is obedient to Jesus Christ.” Hits on Roman Catholic legalism, atheist bans, and leftist “morality” fears (Babylon Bee satire).
– **13:00-17:00: Demonic Influences Exposed**
Gender dysphoria as disorder; parents transitioning kids = the real pathology. Rob: “It’s demonic.” Pastor Jeff invokes Ephesians 6: “We wrestle not against flesh and blood.”
– **17:00-22:00: Bold Engagement Tips**
Proverbs 26 balance: Engage, but wisely. Rob on FB debates: “You become the thing everyone’s looking at.” His military leadership shines; rally “disasters” (e.g., food truck flake) fixed by church network. “If you want change, you have to be the change.”
– **22:00-26:00: Turning Point Power**
Join Action NJ groups for civics/faith chapters. Rob (Burlington leader): “90% God first… Charlie was God first.” Use politics to evangelize; build college/high school chapters against indoctrination.
– **26:00-32:00: Family & Politics**
Back Jack Ciattarelli for crisis centers, homeschool freedom. Involve kids: Rob’s 10-year-old leads prayers post-events. Average Joe: “Get your kids out there… Integrate with adults.” Counter NJ’s “weird Christian ideas.”
– **32:00-End: Victory Charge**
Church prevails: “Gates of hell will not prevail.” Rob: “Have more kids than you can afford.” Close: “Lift a brother up; tear a high place down.”
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